Interview with R2K, Olavi Koponen and Véronique Klimine

Olavi Koponen，您经常说，今天的设计必须从气候开始，今天的样子以及从现在开始的50年开始。但是，这在实际实践中意味着什么？例如，您对位置可用资源的了解如何真正指导您？

Koponen: Our studio has always approached design in terms of environmental issues, focusing our attention on timber constructions. And in our line of work, this is more or less a matter of following rules and regulations. Now I think that we, or rather I, must change my paradigm of architecture, meaning that I need to understand exactly what it means to make long-lasting architecture, in our line of work. In this sense, I’m sure that understanding the climate of the place where the project will be built is an essential starting point. Our solutions must be based on concrete knowledge so that we can create a harmonious, beautiful construction for the people who live in that place.

说到健康的空间，健康的环境，您在设计工作中系统地实施哪些特定政策？

克里米恩：我们有效地需要为团队做出贡献和工作，因为如果没有我们的经验反馈，就很难分析准备过程中纸上的计算是否在建筑物建造并实际使用后是现实的。因此，在15年的时间里气候条件，维护和环境。
Koponen：In Finland, we have huge problems with the health of our buildings’ occupants. In actual fact a lot of schools, offices and homes have simply been shut down by the people in charge of environmental health. Many of these buildings are new. Over the years we have built our homes to be refuges for us, but now these buildings have become a great risk to our health, and this is a great paradox, in view of our original goal! Some of the problems may be a result of the way we use buildings, and above all our maintenance systems. For every human being is part of a broader ecological system, and separating a human being from their environment is not a feasible solution. This also applies to bacteria and microbes. They are a part of our environment, and a part of us. We can only be healthy in an ecosystem that has sufficient diversity.

How important is the interdisciplinary aspect of design? What influence do different skills and sharing of knowledge have in your studio and your work, and how important do you think they will be in the future?

克里米恩:Finding the perfect team of engineers is the most effective way. We have been working very closely with partners in the field of construction of timber buildings right from the start: Arborescence, Jaques Anglade, Gaujard Technologies. Choosing thermal and environmental engineers is a complex challenge. It is the people who provide the skills, not just the organisation.
Koponen：法国的设计过程不同。在这里，我们从项目开始就与专业工程师一起工作，并且在整个过程中，我们都负责预算，直到建筑物完成为止。我们可能从一开始就拥有所有实用的专业知识，但是该系统非常复杂，需要特定的组织技能。

当今，您可以在多大程度上衡量建筑项目用户的满意未来？

克里米恩:
We need more feedback so that we can react in the next project. In a public building there are different types of users, the institution which pays for the building and the users who use it. And so a building may be used in different ways, and the link between our client and the end users may not be direct.
Koponen：
The end users or their representatives are fully involved in the planning process. Our primary goal is to ensure that users are happy. This sometimes requires a critical approach to the client’s requests, because users change, and buildings must serve them all. We ask for and get feedback from users, and also obtain statistics on real performance.

Is it possible to achieve a type of architecture that compensates for its own presence? What I mean is, the energy it contributes is equal to or greater than the energy it consumes? And its soil consumption is practically reduced to zero, its environmental costs are paid? And if this is not possible, do you think it will be in the future?

克里米恩:
When I look at an urban structure in France, I think the real work is balancing its occupation of land, reconsidering the attraction of buildings that have been constructed in the past without any significance or quality. Finding new objects for the future may look like a drop of water in the ocean of our responsibility for improving the spaces in which people are already living.
Koponen：仅考虑能源消耗，产生的能源比已经建造的能源更多。But in a broader sense, in terms of the buildings’ overall environmental impact, the question is a tough one: how can we add human and social value to the site we occupy, how can we re-establish the ecological system we have disturbed, how can we make up for our use of new material resources and the time we have invested in the project? Perhaps this has been done, in part, and, with the right attitude and experience, it can be taken even further.

Mara Corradi

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